Elissa Weinzimmer, Voice & Presence Coach and Founder of Voice Body Connection
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Hello everybody and welcome to the Kajabi Edge podcast where we talk to real entrepreneurs to give you an edge on Kajabi. I'm your host Jared Loman and today I'm joined by my friend Elissa Weinzimmer, voice and presence coach and founder of Voice Body Connection. How are you doing today Elissa?
Elissa:
I’m so good. Thank you so much for having me Jared.
Jared:
Thank you for being here. Well, first of all, tell us a little bit more about what exactly it is that you do as a voice and presence coach?
Elissa:
Yeah. I sometimes joke that if we all came out of the womb with a purpose stamped on our forehead, mine would have said voice. It would say voice because I’m just all about the human voices, totally my thing. And I’ve been that way since I was a kid. I did a lot of musical theater. So singing, dancing, acting...like I was a total performer all through my adolescence - high school, college.
And then the other reason I really got into this is because when I was 21 years old, I was a senior at the University of Southern California, I had a pretty traumatic vocal episode where I lost my voice due to a hemorrhage and acid reflux. And after that, after you know x number of years, taking my voice for granted and just thinking that it would work how I wanted it to when I wanted it to, I realized I needed to study the human voice and understand what was going on with mine so I could actually take good care of it.
So fast forward, what I do now is I work with both public speakers and professional singers and really anyone who uses their voice at a professional capacity which by the way is all of us. And I work on helping us have a healthy voice, a confident voice, and an authentic voice.
Jared:
So what you’re telling me is by the time we’re done recording this podcast, I’m going to have one of those happy, healthy, confident voices?
Elissa:
I mean Jared, I’ve been listening to you on the podcast already and in this moment and you already sound very happy and confident but yes I think it would be actually very appropriate if we did an exercise together today if you would like to.
Jared:
We should do it. We should totally do it. Yeah
Elissa:
That would be amazing!
Jared:
Otherwise, I’m just going to be nervous anyhow. Alright. I guess I’d love to kind of just really zoom in on the beginning. I know you’ve been with Kajabi for a little while now. I think it’s over 5 years? Is that correct?
Elissa:
Yeah. So I had a mentor tell me about Kajabi in probably 2015. And so I got on the waiting list for the new Kajabi and it was actually my online course. My first course was ready to go and I was waiting for you guys to email me that the new Kajabi was ready. So I’ve been in since 2016.
Jared:
I love it. Going back that far in history, I know it’s not that long ago but it kind of feels like...I mean you really were kind of at the forefront or even maybe like somewhat of a pioneer in this space. Was this like your full time gig prior to Kajabi? Or what was it that you were doing at that point in time?
Elissa:
Yeah. So I was in graduate school. I was getting a Master of Fine Arts in Theater Voice Pedagogy which is a very fancy way of saying that I was studying the human voice in a drama department. And that’s what I was doing directly before. I also...I started my business in 2011 so I’ve been voice teaching now at this point for over a decade really. And while I was studying the human voice and getting more deeply into it than I ever had - cause I’d also done other certifications including another theater voice certification called Fitzmaurice Voicework, and a yoga certification and then I was in grad school,- I was really starting to realize kind of a modular step by step idea of what happens with our human voice. And I’ll even...we’ll set...well I’ll tell you right now. We’ll actually get into this.
Essentially, in order to make a sound as a human, first and foremost, we need to have an impulse to make a sound. We have to have some reason to even say anything. Once we have that impulse the next thing that happens is our whole body responds. There’s all sorts of different movements that can be involved in voicing. One of the very important movements is breathing, of course. And then as the breath travels up through our windpipe, through our vocal folds, it sets them into motion and that creates the onset of vibration and sound. What happens next in the human body which is really interesting and makes us unique in the animal kingdom is that we change the shape of our vocal tract which is the tube between our vocal cords and our mouth and our nose. And as we change the shape of that we make resonance and then we articulate and we speak language.
So that's like what I was learning over the course of a handful of years, just to give you an overview. And I wanted to put all of that in a course. And I was kind of teaching that course live. I was teaching portions of that course. I was running a related business about voice stuff, but by the time Kajabi came into my radar, I really basically had that curriculum designed in my brain. And I wanted to create a class called Higher Voice Works that explained all those steps of our human voice.
Jared:
From the moment this was an idea, this was a course in your mind, like this was not something that you're going to like to teach like in public settings or in person? Or this was always a course?
Elissa:
Really good question. So I had been teaching it in lots of different settings. I was teaching when I was in graduate school, that was part of...my job was to also be teaching public speaking classes, classes for actors. Before I moved, when I was in Los Angeles, I was teaching voice classes. So I’d basically been teaching in a classroom format for quite a while. And I suppose I actually now very much realized, and you’re right, that I was a very early pioneer. Among my colleagues, I was very connected to my voice and speech colleagues and theatre departments around the globe. And also you know yoga colleagues, and somatic movement colleagues. And I was one of the firsts among the people I knew to be like, I think this online course thing is gonna be a thing! And I just really intuitively wanted to put it into an online course that anyone could digest anywhere at any time.
Jared:
So, when you got on the list for Kajabi, did you think of this as something that was like really going to be your full time gig? How are you conceptualizing what this would do for you from a career standpoint?
Elissa:
Yeah, I think I did know it was gonna be my full time gig. I didn't know how soon I was gonna be able to do that. I was still doing classroom teaching at the time. But I have, I mean I’ll tell you something fun Jared. When I was in middle school, like really young, I started my first business then. I’ve always been entrepreneurially minded. And that business was actually selling all natural lip balms and body sprays. So I’ve obviously diverged in terms of what I’m selling. But I’ve just always felt that I was gonna be in business for myself. And if anything what's happening right now is I'm starting, to my own surprise, come around and realize that my performing life is actually an important part of everything I do as well - my own singing. And that’s making its way back into the balance. So now, like my business is part of my full time and my own creativity is also part of it. But I always knew that I was gonna be voice teaching full time. Yeah I did.
Jared:
That’s cool! So it sounds like this really came in almost like a natural progression. You started this in college. You've always kinda done this. When did it actually become a business? And how long did that take for you to get from the stage where, I don't know, maybe you haven't even shut down. Maybe you still do train in person. How long did it take to kinda move from whatever it was that was kind of supporting you on a day to day basis to something that could actually support your needs strictly in the course format?
Elissa:
Yeah, so, from the day I marched into the you know, office in Los Angeles to submit my doing business ads which was in 2011. And by the way the business was called “Elissa Weinzimmer Holistic Voice and Yoga Coach” back then, it hardly fit on the business card. I changed the name of the company in 2015. And then, I was like I said, it was not full time for quite a while but I went full time on my business at the end of 2017. So, if that, you know, gives anyone perspective, it took me six years of doing this as a side hustle for it to become full time. And even then, like I’m the type of person who's very willing to take a leap, I’m not super risk-averse, so you know, it took some time to really build the income of the business, so that I felt comfortable.
Over the last handful of years, it’s been a real journey. I find, with running, especially an online business, there’s really an ebb and a flow always. There’s an ebb and a flow for me of how much I meet with people in person that's maybe post Covid sort of coming back, but my business has been mostly online for a while, including pre-Covid. There’s also an ebb and a flow of my client wanting live training, so, me in real time on Zoom or wherever, as opposed to pre-recorded, they just log in to Kajabi portal and they watch it when they want to. So, I’ve been adopting, I feel like I go on waves with all of that.
Jared:
So, around two years from kind of inception to, like this is the real deal. I think that’s kind of the perfect segue to kind of, I'd love to get a better understanding of like, in addition to timing, which is always you know, patience and persistence is so crucial to establishing yourself in any business offline or online, whatever the case. What was some of the struggles that you found kind of getting up and running throughout your journey here?
Elissa:
So, I think they’re administrative for me, and I’m actually pretty good at administration but it's not my zone of genius. But I do go into this flow, and one thing I’ll say about using Kajabi, I sometimes, I actually have for many years called it going into a Kajabi rabbit hole. Like if I’m gonna design a landing page, or if I'm trying to figure out something about my mailing list, and how to sort it, and how to make sure that I'm sending emails to the right people, that's the stuff that's the biggest challenge for me.
And it's also, I feel so grateful, part of the reason I’ve been such a Kajabi super fan for so many years, and you know, touted and come visit you guys at headquarters and everything, is because going into that rabbit hole, those rabbit holes where it’s not my zone of genius, yet is laid out clearly enough so that I can figure it out, has been so important.
So, basically a lot of my biggest struggles have been around the stuff that I used Kajabi for. Like my mailing list, like my website, like the landing pages, like the funnels.
Jared:
Yeah. So it's really interesting, like the journey that you went on to kind of, I guess, get to this point. You knew you want a Kajabi before Kajabi actually even existed, like you were on the waiting list. It’s really interesting to add, I know this thinking back a ways, but is there anything that you anticipated that like didn't come to fruition like at the gate that you were expecting Kajabi to solve for you? Like, what was it that actually kind of inspired you to take that, you know, to get on the waiting list?
Elissa:
I mean, this has been true for a number of years but there are so many advertisements out there that you can just scroll through Instagram and Facebook and it says “Launch! And make a hundred thousand dollars in one launch!” And guess what? Everybody just you know, I’ve never had a single launch where I’ve made a 100k yet, just so you know. And my businesses are really successful.
So, I guess you know, if there were a magic Kajabi pill that allowed each of us to make a 100k everytime we launched anything, that would be amazing. I guess I wanted that solved for me. But I think I actually appreciate the journey I’ve been on more in the incremental growth. And you know, one thing that's really hard for me to do as the visionary in my business is the person who's looking forward, is go backwards and look at the data. I have to bring other people in, to take a look.
Like, what were the open rates on the emails? How many people engaged with this offer? It’s just not where my brain wants to go, so that’s another piece that I often need help with. And me just need support to go back in and close the loop. But I would say honestly my business has worked because I’ve been willing to work inside my zones of competency and excellence, and not only inside my zone of genius.
Jared:
Ok, well I’d love to kind of just zoom in there a little bit further back in the time machine, like when you were just getting started out. Let’s maybe think back to your first launch. I don’t even know how you took your course to market? Can you share a little bit more about what that looked like? That whole process of from idea to this is now going out there.
Elissa:
I do remember. So, you know I told you about the curriculum of that first class. I sat down one day. I bet it was in a Google Drive document, I just like wrote the whole thing out. I suddenly brain dumped, like I just knew what the whole class was, and then it was just really a question of “Okay what tools do I need to get it out there?'' Of course another thing is producing it, and that's actually something that as someone with a background in theatre and film, that's the part I love. I love hiring a director of photography, and you know, like formatting the script and working with the producer and all that. So that was something I was able to do. And the next step really was to film the course and then sit with Kajabi and upload it.
And in the meantime, the way that I funded all of this is actually I ran a kickstarter. So, I asked people if they would pre- purchase the course through my kickstarter and once it was done I would deliver it to them. So, that's actually how I got up off the ground. And I’m pretty sure on that kickstarter, this is a lot of money to make at that time, this was in 2015, 2016. And I'm pretty sure, I made like 6...7... $8,000 something in that range. And I was able to, you know, pay my producer and my director of photography well, and have a really fun time renting an AirBnB to have a set and... Yeah it was actually pretty, considering other processes I’ve been through in my life, it was a pretty easy process. And a couple of months later, I shifted out to everyone and said, and I actually wrote a jingle for the class and it went like this “How your voice works”. So I sent it out to everyone and they received it, and that's how I launched my first class.
Jared:
That's awesome! I love that you validated the idea and you essentially established product market fit before you had a product. Of all other commonalities that I hear throughout you know, this podcast as well as just customers that speak with us, getting and establishing your audience seems to be truly crucial and critical in key to your success. Obviously that worked for you, kind of setting yourself up. You're a little bit further down the process than some of the people we’ve interviewed so far. Does that kind of remain to be true throughout, you know, continued development of products and new launches? Has that process kind of remained to be consistent?
Elissa:
Yes! And I'm so glad you mentioned it, because I would be remiss if I didn't say that the hardest part about running an online business is finding the people who care about your online business, who want to engage with you. And so, I really have found that it's been incremental. I got into the point of my business now, where I’m doing a master class, like when I'm doing the free open class before my annual rounds of...I have two courses now. I have “Release Your Voice”, which is the vocal health class. I have “Authentic Voice Academy”, which is the confidence, presence, get yourself out there. “Nervous System Retraining Class, and that one actually starts very soon.
And when I do free master classes, I now do advertise. I now put advertising dollars behind things, I run social media ads, I have a team helping me get the class out there in front of people. But that certainly was not the case at the beginning. It was like literally thinking of every Facebook group I could post in, writing to my colleagues, posting in you know, list serves that I was a part of, just like anything I could scrappily do. And the reality is it's incremental. It was incremental, it was a different process too to get from you know 500 people on my mailing lists to a 1,000, and then it kinda feels different when your going from like, 2K to 5K, and it's been a whole different ball game to go from 5K up to about 10k, which is where I am right now.
Jared:
Ok, so maybe you could, I was kind of just scrolling through and looking through at some of the notes, kind of on your journey. I didn't touch on any of this in your intro, but just pulling these few things out, you’ve worked with Broadway stars, politicians, CEOs, Fortune 500 companies, where in that process did that come in? Like I imagined like when you started you weren't doing that or maybe you were. Where in the process did that come in?
Elissa:
Well, the coolest part is that, some of my earliest clients, my fellow peeps that I was doing theatre with back in the day, a decade ago, they’re now major Broadway stars. So, it's really cool to say I worked with Broadway stars, and I worked with them when I knew them back when. And yeah politicians have been really fun. Like, I was actually working on a New York City Mayoral campaign at one point, I've gone down the you know, the direction of working with a lawyer. Like I tend to go to lots of different industries cause everyone has a voice. And now, a huge part of what I do, is that I do work in companies as a consultant, I do workshops or longer form training.
And it's really interesting because even if I don't necessarily have those folks watch my courses, or like watch the content that I have in Kajabi, everything that I've done to put my course content together becomes really relevant. Like for instance, I have, in my mini course, that anyone can just land on my website and take the “Find Your Voice, Speak Your Truth'' mini course. I have a PDF that talks you through how to figure out your feeling at anytime, so you can express it. And I'm constantly adapting that PDF and bringing it around to my corporate clients. So it's really every part of my business serves every other part of my business. It's really exciting!
Jared:
Ok. I'm gonna jump around a little bit. I kind of wanna go back to, I guess that kind of earlier in the process. Like what was the biggest flop? What didn't work for you?
Elissa:
Oh my goodness! I'm so happy to answer that question. I mean before I was even online...thank you for asking that question! It's so important. Before I was even online I spent years teaching two to four people in a room in Los Angeles, like just literally, in like a theatre, people would show up with their yoga mat under one arm and I would ask them to bring a cushion for the weird exercises we were doing, where they had to put their legs in the air and make noise, and like you know, that wasn't necessarily a failure, but as someone who likes to reach many people, spending you know, the early days working with two people was like, “Ah this is like, I want something bigger than this.” But at the same time those two people, and I can go back to them right now and thank them, were so formative in helping me understand what I taught and what I wanted to share.
And you know I've honestly had countless because I haven't counted times that I've tried to enroll programs and no one signed up, workshops where no one signed up. Like, that's totally a thing. I also have had times even more recently where I've invested a decent amount of money, and you know getting leads into the free thing, and the conversion rate winds up pretty low. Like that's just something that can happen. And I mean especially, actually, part of that has been Covid right? That people are like “I can do the free thing but unfortunately can't invest right now.” So I've been seeing much lower conversion rates over the past year.
That being said, the people who do make the leap to sign up for my courses have been incredible and I've gotten so much out of it, and the whole business is growing regardless. And you know also, like sometimes I submit myself for outside opportunities, like I wanna speak in this place, or and you know I get rejected. Like there’s constant failures in my business, people don't see that, but the...even just, you know, wanting to work with a certain client or a certain company, and the funding falls through or whatever it is. And it's important for me to accept that not everything is gonna feel like a total and complete success.
Jared:
Yeah, and I think that's actually really inspiring in a way, like knowing where you are at on a journey. And I don’t know how much you want to get into this, like, just how successful you are on the platform. But share what you will with that, because I think that like paints the really important picture, because you're probably much further along than a lot of people maybe who are listening. And to hear it from you, they hear about these failures, they hear about the launches where you hear the crickets and nobody shows up and to hear how that, you know, has happened to you over this journey, as well as maybe even to some degree even up to this day, I think it's incredibly validating, if nothing else, it's a good reason to keep pushing through. So, first of all, share what you wanna share, like where are your failures on the journey?
Elissa:
So, my whole thing is speaking my truth. So I'm very happy to share honestly and vulnerably with you about this. So, I have made hundreds of thousands of dollars on the platform, like I said I've never had a 100k launched, so not in a single launch. Like I said, I have 10,000 people on my mailing list, I have hundreds of students in my courses, like, I’m really really grateful for the reach and success I've had thus far. I've really, as I said, I've been full time, for now its 4 years I've been really devoted to running this business, it is my primary purpose in life.
It's been wonderful and important to always come back to a place of checking in with the people who are actually showing up, and asking them, Am I providing you what you need? Are you getting the training that you thought you were gonna get here? Or are you getting a training you thought you're gonna get here plus more?
But, something I actually wanted to share on this podcast is that 2 years ago, just before, like I guess it was a year before the pandemic, and so, two and a half years ago. I was super excited, as you know super supportive of Kajabi to fly to Irvine and attend the Impact Summit that you guys held. And I remember thinking going into Impact Summit, I was like “Oh man! Like there’s gonna be so many amazing course creators in that room”. So many people who have been doing this for longer than me, who are so far ahead, who have you know, like tens of thousands of people on their mailing lists, which at that point was my goal, like I'm just gonna have so much to learn from being in this environment.
And the biggest thing that struck me, being in that big hotel ballroom with everyone, just watching all the amazing presentations and being surrounded by fellow course creators was, “Oh my goodness! I'm not behind and ahead.” I thought that I was, you know, like kinda swim to catch up to the wave. And when I was in that room, I was like, “Oh! I'm at the crest of the wave.” This is just starting.
Jared:
Yeah, I mean definitely from a timing perspective, but also, it kind of reminds me, I don't want to misattribute this one, but I think it's Michelle Obama...talks about like, someone who questioned her, when her husband went into office, like, “What's it like being in this room with all of this powerful men?” And her answer was, again paraphrasing, something of the sort, “I realized they weren't all that smart.” That's kind of what it reminds me, not to say that nobody else is smart. But I think you know, when you come into those places, you ultimately realized...and sometimes it's a validating factor, you really see how far you’ve came, and as well as maybe you’ve identified a few opportunities from others who've run into things that you haven't run into. There's always things we can of course learn.
So, speaking of learning, we talked about this a little bit in the beginning. I'd love to know, like we've been talking for a few minutes now, what's something that I can do throughout this process to maybe make myself sound more confident? Or any area I guess, how would you approach this?
Elissa:
Yeah, so okay, I’m so glad we get to do an exercise together. So, one of the things we're recording obviously, I'm on the East Coast, you're on the West Coast, we're recording across time and space. And this is actually obviously very prominent these days, so there are more of us functioning like course creators. And so we can imagine looking into each other's eyes, but we are not exactly quite doing it, but, on an energetic vibrational level, our vibrations are reaching each other, and that's how we are creating meaning and communicating with each other.
So, what I like to have people envision, is that whatever space you want your voice to impact, picture it like a bubble, and picture everything that you want your impact to reach being inside that like spherical bubble. So right now, Jared, you're on my screen. I'm picturing that there's a bubble between me and my computer right? And what we wanna start to do is breathe that space, so that our energy gets synched up with the amount of space. And then if you think about any, we could even do a little like goofy, kind of you know, voice exercises, like you could hum, and practice like, is my voice, is my hum reaching that space?. Hmmhmm...hmmmm...hmmm...hmmmm...right? Which is different than - you feel free to hum Jared if you want to.
Jared:
Oh boy! Mmhmm…mmmm...mmmmm...mmmm
Elissa:
Beautiful! And as opposed to, like you know, if I'm not letting my voice reach you, my hum will be like “hmmhmmmhmmm…” Like it's not actually getting out right? So, we have to let our eyes and our kinesphere take in the space that we wanna fill, in order for our voice to fill that space. And that's why I like to refer to volume, like a lot of people come to me and they like, “Elissa I dont think I'm loud enough”. And I say well, another word for loudness is volume, and what we really just did is, we were talking right now is, we increased our volume. Like in the sense you know, the physics of formula of a container right? When your volume of what you're taking in is bigger, then your voice will sound louder and more confident.
And obviously there are, you know, people like Beyonce, inside you know, a mega auditorium or coliseum that can do this, and of course with the help of amplification. But, make no mistake, the reason we show up to see someone like Beyonce in a venue like that is because she is energetically with her bubble, holding everyone in the space and making it exciting for you to feel her energy while you're there.
Jared:
Yeah! How important is that when you're recording your course for example?
Elissa:
It's so important and it's the same thing. And basically what you do is you just switch the coliseum for the green dot light on your computer, right, or the red blinking light, or whatever it is. It's so important. We could either cut off our energy from reaching our audience, we can also by the way, push our energy, like force our energy, bombard our audience with our energy. What we wanna do is find a middle space, where we’re truly present, where we’re both giving and receiving energy, and people feel like they're really connected to us, through our voice, through our energy and through our vibration.
Jared:
Very nice! Well, this is definitely something that I know a lot of people who are exploring the space will benefit from. Recording, certainly is something that does not come natural, at least to me personally, I've had to do this, actually ironically enough in the beginning of the pandemic. I started out with, kind of a fear of recording. I started doing all these internal recordings for well over a year, of just doing this over and over again. So it's something that undoubtedly our course creators, anyone whose recording whether it's a podcast like this or creating their course, will be incredibly useful too.
So, I guess jumping back into kind of your story. I’d love to kind of understand more about, like where are you at today? What's kind of next on the horizon for you?
Elissa:
Yeah, so, my business has many layers now. One of them is that I have a podcast as well called “Find Your Voice Speak Your Truth.” So I speak to people about their practice being truthful and honest, and using their voice fully and expressively. I also have a community, which is we have a whole voice body connection process that we do to find our voice and speak our truth. So the community is a place where we can practice that. It's like a membership. And then, I also have courses, like I said, and now some of the stuff that I'm really starting to focus on is training other Voice Body Connection Certified Teachers. Which of course then feeds back into the community, that I’ll have fellow teachers working with me to help spread the community.
And my vision for that, is that, you know, in not too many years, I hope that will have an app, and it will be the type of thing, you know, not exactly yoga, not exactly a cycling app, but you can sign on, and spend 20 minutes doing a live voice and movement warm up with us. And by the way, there's a version of it happening right now, so come to my website, you can do it now. But, that's my vision.
And so Voice Body Connection is turning into this, like beautiful thing that's bigger than me, and also, what's so exciting about it, is that it frees me up, to be able to do the speaking, the workshops, the writing the book, the recording an album, stuff that is part of my own creative practice. So, it's exciting!
Jared:
That's great! Jumping back at... is yoga still a part of this? I know your original dva was hand yoga. Is hand yoga still a part?
Elissa:
Yeah! Very much is. I mean if you come to one of our warm ups, like I’ll ask you to inhale and reach your arms to the air, you'll be like “Am I in a yoga class right now?” And then I’ll be like, and now blow through your lips, and you'll be like, “Woah...okay!” So it's just a combination of all the stuff, yeah.
Jared:
Okay, so looking back, what would you tell yourself? What would you tell 5 years ago-ish, maybe 6 years ago Elissa when you're just getting started?
Elissa:
Yeah, so that story that I told you, the realization that hit me in the room that Impact Summit like I'm not behind, I'm actually ahead, I would tell myself that. I told so many of my students and clients that, you're not behind, you're actually, you're doing it right now, so good work! You're ahead! Another thing I would say to myself is just like, one thing at a time, one step at a time, just you know, figure out one issue, one problem, one surmount, one triumph at a time.
Jared:
I imagined that your answer may be the same or similar, to the similar question, but, anything that you would share with aspiring entrepreneurs? Someone who’s looking to get into your space or any space really. What advice, what tips would you have for someone just starting out?
Elissa:
Well, I think the really beautiful thing about being a human being is that we are all experts. Just by virtue of living our lives and going through whatever the pattern and form of our individual unique life is, we become an expert on probably multiple things. So, a lot of times the resistance to starting a business, like you know, what someone would do on Kajabi, putting yourself out there, putting your expertise out there, is like, “I'm not an expert, other people can do this better, why should I bother?” But the reality is there is literally no one who has the knowledge you have.
So, in fact, when you hide and don't put it out there, you're depriving people who could benefit from your unique perspective, your unique knowledge. You're not letting them have access to that. And so, I think for me, that's the most important pep talk, is to say if you have a desire to do this, then that actually, that's like a, I'd like to think of it just like a universal compass, being like, that way! That's your purpose! That's your direction! I say you do it! If there is that deep rumbling in your gut and your soul to do this, then welcome to the club my friend! Let's do it!
Jared:
I absolutely love that! I couldn’t have orchestrated a better, more inspirational answer.
Elissa
It's one of my favorite things to get on the soapbox and say. Thank you for asking me.
Jared:
Yes! Well to kind of wrap this back around, for anyone who is interested and learning a little bit more about this, who wants to go even deeper than we did today, how do they find you? How do they get a hold of you?
Elissa:
Yeah, so my website is voicebodyconnection.com, and there's lots of things on that website. You will find both that mini course that I spoke about before, as well as information about the upcoming masterclass that I'm teaching, which is called “Speaking Your Truth Doesn't Make You Unprofessional.” And that's a really important topic to me, to talk about how we can put ourselves out there genuinely and authentically. We don't need to create a facade, and we're able to actually connect with people better that way.
So, head to my website if you wanna sign up for the free masterclass, which is on September 8, and also just engage with any of the other offerings that I have there, and then you can find me on Instagram @voicebodyelissa. And Elissa is spelled E-L-I-S-S-A. And we also have a Facebook group which is the “Voice Body Connection Community”
Jared:
Very good! Well, thank you again for joining us today Elissa and sharing so many cool tips and techniques for all of these entrepreneurs, or aspiring entrepreneurs that are listening.
Elissa:
It's my pleasure! Thank you so much for having me.
Jared:
Very good! Well, that is going to do it for us today, thank you all so much for listening to us. We'd really appreciate as always if you left us a review on Apple Podcast, Spotify, Google, it really helps us out in getting this message out to more and more entrepreneurs or aspiring entrepreneurs. Thank you again for listening and we look forward to seeing you all next week on the Kajabi Edge Podcast.
